tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post113656960532313871..comments2023-11-05T07:37:47.920-05:00Comments on The Assimilated Negro: The Quest For The "Negro Hipster" Continues ...T.A.N.http://www.blogger.com/profile/03386902584581113328noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-90873824414452464422009-01-16T10:28:00.000-05:002009-01-16T10:28:00.000-05:00Fantastic post. Thanks very much.Fantastic post. Thanks very much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-35629673954285137642008-04-24T00:33:00.000-04:002008-04-24T00:33:00.000-04:00This issue of slavery is a simple one if understoo...This issue of slavery is a simple one if understood. Slavery is about the control of Negro women and her children, by relabeling her, the U.S. has made invisible, and removed from memory of humanity, her existence in the world. Because of this horrific, experience, her children, and future generations have lost her gift to them (heritage inheritance) of lands belonging to the continent of America (formerly known as the Americas) Because she was captured and brutalized by Europeans, she has lost her husband, she has lost her ability to create for her race, resulting in loss of industry for her people. By reclassifying her as African-American, every person of color, coming into the U.S. is wrongly assumed to be a Negro, and are partaking in the so-called civil rights without responsibility, that were allegedly hers in the first place. The one drop of black blood theory has caused irreparable damage in so-called Negro communities by causing her to absorb other races children into her communities, resulting in further loss of economy, and industry and human rights. However, this is a very basic explanation. The so-called Negro woman is the original woman of North-America. Pres. Clinton apologized to so-called African women for slavery, while this was commendable, we are not Africans, we are the races of American Indians.(Negro Indians) To date no one has apologized to the American Negro Woman for anything! Accept it or reject it, nevertheless it is true. Negro-American men have got to stop making babies with white women. It makes us weaker and them stronger. The American Negro now known as blacks, black-Americans, African-Americans, people of color, coloreds, colored people, non-white races, and any other label or brand, has got to learn how to support and protect their women, for without our women their is no more us.Indigenoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10317148191913352162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-48762999836193071372008-02-25T18:01:00.000-05:002008-02-25T18:01:00.000-05:00Negro hipster...you're speaking to someone who's b...Negro hipster...you're speaking to someone who's been so accused...<BR/><BR/>But I don't understand how being a hipster has anything to do with black culture...<BR/><BR/>From what I know being a Hipster is dressing in vintage, referring to oneself as an artist and connoisseur of art and sophistication, and being indie in everything you watch and listen to. So I don't follow the "co-opting black culture" bit...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-63331668864610555922007-12-21T16:50:00.000-05:002007-12-21T16:50:00.000-05:00For the White Negro, the REAL Negro symbolically e...For the White Negro, the REAL Negro symbolically exposes the sterility and hypocrisy of White liberal Christian culture. Negritude is the essential element in his project for "re-authenticity". However the tragedy comes when the young fresh faced surburbanite confronts the savagery of his urban ghetto neighbors and longs for the socialization that he/she left behind in the 'burbs as he lays on the pavement beaten and bloodied for the $20 in his wallet.christopherleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686299663407903621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-30214605989728579492007-09-28T12:03:00.000-04:002007-09-28T12:03:00.000-04:00What a mouthful.In the words of Mark Stewart, as a...What a mouthful.<BR/><BR/>In the words of Mark Stewart, as a black man, "We can show you how cool looks; we cannot show you how it feels." The history of hip is one that co-opts black culture--the fascinating, trendy otherness of it. Plus being a hipster, intentionally, is about creating an outstanding persona for yourself when you feel that the one you come by naturally gets overlooked. <BR/><BR/>Somehow, I find this notion counter- to being black at all. As a black man, we already exist stood out from the majority--there's no need to create an additional outward persona for attention. This is why you rarely see a black Goth running around town, (save, perhaps, for Wesley Snipes as Blade, but he's a black vampire, like Count Chocula).Harrison Mooneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261557020279875141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-76666564479517074402007-07-12T18:58:00.000-04:002007-07-12T18:58:00.000-04:00MAN! You are one assimilated motherfucka!MAN! You are one assimilated motherfucka!ProblemWithCaringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08095117977468663616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1170977637781358242007-02-08T18:33:00.000-05:002007-02-08T18:33:00.000-05:00Racism is not dead it just becomes more of a side ...Racism is not dead it just becomes more of a side issue based on your where you are economically. This does depend on what part of the country you live in though. Of course this theory only holds until you get into some trouble. At that point get ready to fight twice as hard.I guess all Black people should really treat racism as x it is a given, figure it into your equation. Black Hipsters oh yes they exist. Common,Andre 3000,PM Dawn,Lenny,Mos Def,Hendrix,Kelis,Badu,Corrine Lynn Bailey,John Legend,etc. Its not about veering off the expected path but the willingness to travel down other roads, pick up what you like and incorporate it into your life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1170551861234907512007-02-03T20:17:00.000-05:002007-02-03T20:17:00.000-05:00ANDRE 3000. That is all.ANDRE 3000. That is all.Obliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454128296346952335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1149207346669340302006-06-01T20:15:00.000-04:002006-06-01T20:15:00.000-04:00I use the term "hippie" being the son of hipsters....I use the term "hippie" being the son of hipsters. Then again as an adult maybe hipster is more appropriate.My credential as a person of Hip are solid, Just look at the time it took me to post this. <BR/><BR/>Being A Deadhead boosters my case. BTW I know of two community were race is dead (or a least very very ill). Among Deadheads, you may think they're being patronizing when they call you "Bro" or "Brother" until you<BR/>realize that's what they call everyone. They other is left to the reading as an exercise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1148186405059063922006-05-21T00:40:00.000-04:002006-05-21T00:40:00.000-04:00I'm late to the party on this one, but I really li...I'm late to the party on this one, but I really like this post. Whoever said hipsters are buying into Madison Avenue, I agree with him/her. And I don't think they are helping race relations either. They are white middle class kids who go to Hate Whiteys and ridicule black culture at the drop of a hat.<BR/><BR/>For the record, I'm a biracial girl who listens to some indie rock, but I don't buy into the hipster bullshit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1137769953716220452006-01-20T10:12:00.000-05:002006-01-20T10:12:00.000-05:00I think Hipsters are doing exactly what Madison Av...I think Hipsters are doing exactly what Madison Avenue ad execs want them to do which is being total products of a consumerist mind-set. In this mental economy race is just another empty symbol to be put on like a cheesy Halloween costume and abandoned at the end of the night. The problem is this divorces symbols of race from material history, the literal suffering of real black people at the hands of real white people which has lead to the economic inequality that allows upper middle class brats to run around acting as if nothing they say or do matters. It's really just updated dandyism. <BR/><BR/>As for blackface Jesus: I dare him to walk down Fulton Street Mall in that get-up. The fact is he does this performance in settings where real blackness and real Christianity have no meaning. Hipsters have no emotional connection to blackness or the figure of Jesus. <BR/><BR/>I used to be very ironic and all that stuff. I was a very empty person. I really had no heart and was very self-centered so I therefore had no respect for other people and their symbols and stories. Even when I dubbed things "awesome" (ironically) I was still placing myself above them: I was outside of everything, apart. It's actually a pretty sad place to be. Unable to connect on a sincere level with anyone outside of your hipster logic (which is a majority of the world). It's childish, self-absorbed mindset that's actually pretty aggressive in it's inability to connect with real people for whom life isn't an empty stream of pop-culture references.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1137473144639147692006-01-16T23:45:00.000-05:002006-01-16T23:45:00.000-05:00After reading both this piece and the Byron Crawfo...After reading both this piece and the Byron Crawford piece and the 38 comments for this piece (but not all 52 comments for Byron's piece), I began to experience a state of disequilibrium and had to take a short nap to recover.<BR/><BR/>I'm still not exactly sure what a hipster is, living out here in the boondocks of a very red state, but I'm pretty sure I'm not a hipster.<BR/><BR/>It seems like an awful lot of work. I mean, I'm not opposed to irony, and I use a bit of it from time to time myself. But to live in a continual state of irony seems to be a lot of effort expended to not very clearly defined ends.<BR/><BR/>And to say that nothing matters and that therefore everything should be treated ironically strikes me as simple nihilism. Maybe I'm just not really grasping the whole hipster thing.<BR/><BR/>But the notion that the answer to the questions of race in our culture is simply to strike some sort of ironic pose looks to me like a dodge.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it's progress. Maybe I'm wrong. But my own sense is that it is a form of denial. It may be healthier on the interpersonal level than some of the alternatives, but it completely ignores those aspects which are not interpersonal in nature. It refuses the existence of any big picture.<BR/><BR/>The simple mouthing of politically correct stuff isn't an answer. But the simple rejection of the conversation isn't, either. <BR/><BR/>It just doesn't strike me as being all that simple.<BR/><BR/>As to Blackface Jesus himself, his schtick seems to suggest naivete or imbalance. The pictures suggest a Marilyn Manson-like cynicism (playing for shock value), but the posts on his blog seem to suggest a kid who likes the attention but has a bit of a martyr streak and one or two messianic delusions.<BR/><BR/>And the extensive pixel time Gawker gives him seems to suggest a certain freak-show opportunism on their part.<BR/><BR/>Why all this is considered "hip" I can't imagine. But perhaps that's because we in the sticks visited the midway last year when the fair came to town, and the bearded lady stuff is kind of old hat in these parts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1137454764071255542006-01-16T18:39:00.000-05:002006-01-16T18:39:00.000-05:00I forgot to add that about 90% of the black male h...I forgot to add that about 90% of the black male hipsters are very gay indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1137454727258663742006-01-16T18:38:00.000-05:002006-01-16T18:38:00.000-05:00Where do you hang out? Go to the NYU area. 50% o...Where do you hang out? Go to the NYU area. 50% of the black girls you see are stereotypical strong angry black women, the other 50% are hipsters. About 99% of the black guys are hipsters. Whether being black and hipsters makes 'em negro hipsters or not, I don't know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1137003147053855132006-01-11T13:12:00.000-05:002006-01-11T13:12:00.000-05:00Most people would not regard Puffy as a hipster. I...Most people would not regard Puffy as a hipster. I guess there is a certain element of taking chances. Being stylish and hip are not always synonymous. But again, I think there is a racial double-standard. In some ways, an XXXXL white tee is not much different than an XXS Penguin golf shirt. I think one of the dynamics here is that white people are a lot more conservative when it comes to adopting new fashion trends. It's true that a lot of white people ape black/latino/asian fasions, but I notice (here in SoCal) that the people referred to as hipsters are the ones NOT aping black/latino/asian fashions. hmm. I'm not sure if it should be thought of as post-racial, because it seems (much like punk boys wearing girls jeans) that it is a reaction to the baggy clothes thing (which is obviously associated with non-whites).<BR/><BR/>I would say a better case study is Kanye. If kanye grew a beard, he would be a hipster no doubt (a sporty hipster, but a hipster nonethelesss). I think sometimes a hipster just comes down to hair. Supercuts, $8... you are a hipster.<BR/><BR/>_ericAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1137000747955957502006-01-11T12:32:00.000-05:002006-01-11T12:32:00.000-05:00"Thanks for teaching me something."Again, King, co..."Thanks for teaching me something."<BR/><BR/>Again, King, condescending. Unintentionally, perhaps????<BR/><BR/>One of the benefits of being NOT Black is that you can:<BR/>a. act like race NOT your problem.<BR/>b. Thank people on blogs for teaching you about race.<BR/>c.Go on blogs to learn about racial politics.<BR/><BR/>I tend to look for the good in people. So I will give you the b.o.d (benifit of the doubt in negro speak). You will be better served by listing your "white guy from the midwest disclaimer" at the begining of all your racial postings. You know, to clear up any misunderstandings.M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1136994462806352902006-01-11T10:47:00.000-05:002006-01-11T10:47:00.000-05:00king - originally you say hipster or hip hop guy. ...king - originally you say hipster or hip hop guy. then you use gangster. hip hop and gangster are not synonymous. but diddy is definitely a hip hop guy, not a hipster. i don't think there are any guys his age who are hipsters. he predates the contemporary hipster.T.A.N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03386902584581113328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1136932255458413252006-01-10T17:30:00.000-05:002006-01-10T17:30:00.000-05:00^^ kind of a weird comment coming from a white per...^^ kind of a weird comment coming from a white person. i've heard this argument many times. it's like a black person saying "your racism is not my problem." i figure we have a <I>mutual</I> responsibility to educated each other.<BR/><BR/>Personally -- and speaking as a white person -- I would rather get a black person's take on the state of race relations, because then it becomes a mutual process and I get (presumably) a different perspective.<BR/><BR/>And it <I>is</I> the job of some black people to educate white people. It's called school.<BR/><BR/>_ericAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1136909783284468162006-01-10T11:16:00.000-05:002006-01-10T11:16:00.000-05:00You guys should realize that I am a typical Midwes...<EM>You guys should realize that I am a typical Midwest white guy and unless taught otherwise we lump "you all" in the same category.</EM><BR/><BR/>King, that type of thinking is inherently racist--teach yourself a little something about the black community before you go spouting off with your supposed 'solutions.' It's not black people's job to educate white people.Allison Bojarskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07411645030502945999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1136875103038240702006-01-10T01:38:00.000-05:002006-01-10T01:38:00.000-05:00Tubbs definetly bought me on I LoveWhities.comDuh!...Tubbs definetly bought me on I LoveWhities.com<BR/><BR/>Duh!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1136871724635554352006-01-10T00:42:00.000-05:002006-01-10T00:42:00.000-05:00You’re cordially invited to visit yet another blog...You’re cordially invited to visit yet another blog. All the best.<BR/><BR/>http://multicultclassics.blogspot.com/2006/01/multicultclassics-faq.htmlHighJivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11372784671087002387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1136845582676959862006-01-09T17:26:00.000-05:002006-01-09T17:26:00.000-05:00There does seem to be an element of tongue-in-chee...There does seem to be an element of tongue-in-cheek here.<BR/><BR/>To an extent I agree about "bad defnitions". Labels and stereotypes are just that: bad definitions. But labels and stereotypes are a reality. We could stop talking about them, but that wouldn't unexist them.<BR/><BR/>The main thing is to simply remember that the labels and stereotypes are merely references. They are continually flipped and redefined. Either you are in on that process, or you are an observer.<BR/><BR/>But, agreed, it is kinda frustrating that it must come to this.<BR/><BR/>_ericAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1136843787385712902006-01-09T16:56:00.000-05:002006-01-09T16:56:00.000-05:00^ By the way Morgan Freeman said something pretty ...^ By the way Morgan Freeman said something pretty similar on 60 Minutes a few weeks ago. That the way to overcome race issues is to stop talking about them. That hipster!<BR/><BR/>There's a whole lot of generalizing and bad definitions going on in this conversation - not just at this blog but at all the blogs and forums covering this topic. I'm finding it to be a pretty frustrating topic as a result.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1136833987022732852006-01-09T14:13:00.000-05:002006-01-09T14:13:00.000-05:00i don't buy the hipster 'race is dead' creed- how ...i don't buy the hipster 'race is dead' creed- how are a buncha whiteys gonna tell <I>me</I> when something is a non-issue?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16210951.post-1136831840197577572006-01-09T13:37:00.000-05:002006-01-09T13:37:00.000-05:00white hipster = black geeki guess my little disser...white hipster = black geek<BR/><BR/>i guess my little dissertation was unecessary. thanks for pointing that out.<BR/><BR/>_ericAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com